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_Inbox/2026-04-22 1302 Fow Circus tickets sale merchant.md

@@ -32,4 +32,82 @@ ticketebo.co.uk
 zeffy.com
 - in person ticket sales
 - all via barcodes scanned
-- 
+- additional services
+	- setup for non-profits
+	- raffle tickets sales
+		- 50/50 raffle
+	- one off dotation's (and subscription available)
+	- auctions
+
+## write up for the group
+
+Ticketebo vs zeffy:
+
+Both platforms handle the basics (online sales, barcode tickets, and entry scanning), but the costs differ:
+- Online sales
+- barcode tickets
+
+differences:
+- ticketebo add a 4.95% fee onto the ticket price (min of 75p per order)
+- zeffy ask for a voluntary dotation at checkout - no charge if patreon declines
+- manual/cash sales: ticketebo would charge us 75p to create a ticket. zeffy is no cost.
+
+so ticket income
+- £8 per ticket
+- 220 per showing, 3 showings
+- £5,280 if all tickets sold
+
+both services 100% of that money would come back to us, however, tickets prices will be more expensive sold via ticketebo £8.40pp on orders of two tickets or more, or £8.75 for a single ticket.
+
+for a charity, ticketebo will also refund 10% of their takin, which would be somwhere around £26.40 extra for us. Also have to factor in any manual/cash sales we do will cost us 75p each, so this would have to come off this total.
+
+in summary, 
+- both options offer the same service
+- both options would see roughly the same income on tiket sales for the charity
+- actual ticket prices would be more expensive via ticketebo (+40p to 75p)
+
+whichever we go for for ticket sales, i would encourage you all to have aloo at the zeffy website. they are a non-profit setup to help with fund raising for other non-profits, there some good ideas/services that they offer that could raise money for the charity
+- raffle tickets sales (see their 50/50 raffle too)
+- one off dotation's (and subscription available)
+- donation/prize auctions
+
+## ai impovement and my ammendments
+
+### **Online Ticket Sales: Ticketebo vs. Zeffy**
+
+Both platforms handle the basics (online sales, barcode tickets, and entry scanning), but the costs differ:
+
+Ticketebo (Traditional Model)
+- Cost: They add a 4.95% fee to the total order.
+- The Minimum: There is a 75p minimum fee per order.
+    - For a single £8 ticket, the fee is 75p (since 4.95% is only 40p).
+    - For an order of 10 tickets (£80), the fee is £3.96 (4.95%).
+- Charity Perk: They refund 10% of their booking fees back to us after the event (roughly £25–£30 if we sell out).
+- Cash Sales: They charge us 75p to manually generate a barcode ticket for cash buyers.
+    
+Zeffy (Non-Profit Model)
+- Cost: £0. It is completely free for the PTA.
+- How it works: At checkout, it asks parents for a voluntary "contribution" to keep the platform running. This is optional, parents can skip it.
+- Cash Sales: We can manually add cash buyers and send them a barcode ticket at no extra cost.
+
+Our bottom line (£8 tickets / 660 total capacity / 3 showings):
+- Income: Both return the full £5,280 to the PTA.
+- Parent Cost: Tickets are cheaper for parents on Zeffy (£8 flat vs. £8.40/£8.75).
+- Cash sales: Zeffy is better for cash sales because Ticketebo’s 75p fee for manual tickets would have to come out of our profits.
+
+In summary:
+- Service: Both provide the same core features (online sales and barcode scanning).
+- PTA Income: We get the same payout from both. Ticketebo does offer the 10% return on their fees, but this would probably be swallowed by the 75p fee per ticket for any cash sales we make.
+- Parent Cost: Zeffy is cheaper for parents (£8 flat). Ticketebo adds fees (40p or 75p per person).
+- The Trade-off: To keep prices at £8 on Ticketebo, we would have to absorb the fees ourselves, costing the PTA approximately £264.
+
+### follow on message
+
+Whichever way we go for tickets, I’d encourage everyone to check out Zeffy.com. They are a non-profit built to help charities, and they offer several tools that could be potential revenue for the charity:
+
+- Raffles: Easily sell raffle tickets online (lookup their "50/50" draws).
+- Donations: Set up one-off or monthly subscription donations.
+- Auctions: Run online auctions for donated prizes.
+- No Fees: Because they don't take a cut, we keep 100% of every donation and prize bid.
+
+Something I thought would be looking at